Ashing

[Hopilus]

just an idea. although i doubt it would happen.
i think it would be great if the ash drop rate were slightly increased in the special locs. i have actually hit the action cap while ashing with 15 minutes to go. and got about 250 to 300 less ash just from straight ashing. and with that 15 minutes, i was also sol on poker.
would appreciate it, if you would just consider the idea jeff.

He will just tell you to ash on another character, and use mules to poker.

[Archer of Crosis]

Originally Posted by Hopilus

just an idea. although i doubt it would happen.
i think it would be great if the ash drop rate were slightly increased in the special locs. i have actually hit the action cap while ashing with 15 minutes to go. and got about 250 to 300 less ash just from straight ashing. and with that 15 minutes, i was also sol on poker.
would appreciate it, if you would just consider the idea jeff.

i do like your idea of increasing ash drop rate idea to a point, unfortunately more ash to destroy means more actions you have to do which doesnt really solve anything.

perhaps a command to check how many actions weve done that hour might be of use for maximizing our ashing. this way we can equip ss's to slow us down and be precise about things...

[Archer of Crosis]

Originally Posted by Rai x2

perhaps a command to check how many actions weve done that hour might be of use for maximizing our ashing. this way we can equip ss's to slow us down and be precise about things...

great idea

[Northern Silence]

/aa action amount would be good

Me and a couple other people have already requested a command to do that..

And that might clash with /a (auction). Maybe /count, too lazy to check all the commands for clashes.

[Hopilus]

actually...
even if you have to destroy more ash per hour, it would take less clicks to get said ash. lets assume you get 1 ash for every 6 clicks or so. if you have GHB and can hold 60 ash at one time, then it would take 720 clicks to fill a backpack. then 60 more to destory it. so 780 per backpack.
now, if ash drop rate were slightly increased so that you got 1 ash every 4 clicks, same 60 ash per backpack, it would take 480. plus 60 more. so 540.
granted, that might only be 180 clicks difference, but by said average, thats an extra like 20 or so ash. and if you can fill your backpack say 10 or so times and hour, then thats like an extra 200 ash.
and yes, i know, you can get 1 ash per click for 20 clicks, and then not get any for 40 clicks. just using an average number is all.

[Hopilus]

Originally Posted by Rai x2

perhaps a command to check how many actions weve done that hour might be of use for maximizing our ashing. this way we can equip ss's to slow us down and be precise about things...

anyone who spends alot of time ashing, should already know how to click on their char to avoid 10 secs unless affected by server lag. and clicking with SSs just make ashing take longer, and then you wont get to use all 4k clicks an hour. which will make you ash even less. which goes against the whole purpose of ashing to get stuff as fast as possible.

Hopilus, yes they make it take longer, and if we're hitting the max actions per hour 10 minutes early, why the hell not put on SS and get extra shots at skills in the same amount of time. Obviously you want as much ash as possible in a time period. But if actions/hour are going to limit you, you might as well be as effective as possible during your time used. Do what you want with the new said command. But thats what i would do with it. However, tbh i wouldnt waste my time ashing to begin with.

[doug]

lol y would u want to purposely slow u down plus u could just equip DsD's and get skills while ashing no lag and more chance of a skill if u were tht keen on skilling

[Archer of Crosis]

SS's are useless, and I'm 100% sure that hopilus no longer requires skills, making them even more useless to her. I also do not need anymore skills, making SS's useless to me. so that really doesnt solve anything. If i wanted to slow myself down I'd equip an apex while hardcapping.

Cole, jeff said everything counted as an action, so as i sit in sky shrine playing poker i go , fight>kill>destroy ash(i get one every click might miss one or two clicks here and there)>click play on poker> hit raise>fight>kill>destroy ash>raise>fight>kill>destroy ash>raise>fight>kill>destroy ash>raise
thats 17 actions already and if i type in shout as well there goes more actions.

Well I have no problem with the hourly action update persay, I don't think chatting or poker should count as actions.

As for ashing being useless, i strongly disagree with this as i built sose on my char this way and my suit as it is atm, by ashing/poker.

[Hopilus]

you're right chan. Hopilus doesnt really require skills. and why would i put SS on Walker, when i got the DsDev suit to use? especially when all his skills are over 100.
and i sit in sky shrine as well. click until i get a full backpack, then empty it. only because i find it takes less time to do that, then to destroy every click.
and anyone who thinks ashing is useless can kiss my royal white rear end.
i have gotten 3 chars to SoSe now by ashing (well, almost 3. 2.2k more ash at this exact moment and it will be 3). and 1 of those 3 fully shadow suited. and i dont mean just the last 50k ash either. i created Hopilus, and she is now SoSe through ashing. only took 8 months to do, but i dids it. took another 5 months to fully shadow her up.
the key to ashing, and any asher knows this, is patience. and learning how to click on their char to utilize them to their potential and not get 10 secs.

and i understand, that jeff will probably just say you are sol on getting an ash drop increase. and the only reason i ask, is because it would most likely up it just enough, that it would compensate for the amount of ashing being lost in a hour for someone who hits action cap with 15 or so minutes left to go. not asking him to double the drop rate. but just enough of a boost to make ashers come out even again, would be nice.

Didn't he also say that the only way you are hitting this is if you use questionable means.... =(

""There's now an hourly limit on the amount of actions you can do in RWK - DONT WORRY - you won't hit this limit unless you are using questionable tactics i.e. hotkeys to farm massive plexes which is frowned upon. If you're one of the 5 people that play that might actually hit this limit, sorry suckah.""

Post in the update section...

So I'm wondering if you are one of those 5 people he is referring to or there was a miscalculation on his part. Especially if you are hitting with 15 minutes to spare.

But it's whatever

Most people who aren't slow retards can hit the action cap in an hour doing anything that is continuous actions, even without hotkeying, or multiple windows.

As for the DsDev comment, most people who ash don't have full D*Dev suits to equip when they feel like it.

The reason you would want to slow down and have a higher chance of skilling, is that you're gonna kill x amount of monsters and get y amount of ash. If you're going to be doing that with 10 or more minutes to spare in the hour, why not kill the same amount of things, but 2/3 of the way through the hour, equip some SS's so you have a slightly higher skill chance, but no reduction in kill or ash amount?

[Hopilus]

pft, i have done the skilling with SS. and honestly, i got more skills with nothing on, then i did with SS. besides, when you put the SS on, your body/hands/mind, are so used to clicking without them on, that it really does screw up your clicking rhythm. have you ever tried it? cause i have. i just about shot myself with all the 10 secs i was getting from it.

and the first time i hit hour cap while ashing, was no hotkeys. just straight clicking. its relatively simple to do. granted, that hour i only had about 7 minutes left, but still.

You're missing the point, so I won't try to explain it again..

[Hopilus]

im not missing the point
you are saying to equip SS to slow you down so you dont hit 4k in an hour. i get that
whats the point of not hitting cap though? if you dont hit it, you are wasting actions that dont accumulate. therefore, wasting opportunity to get ash.
i would rather hit the cap and have 10 minutes left, then put SS on and not hit the cap.
and yet again, i will reiterate, yes, i am one of those people that wont use SS because i have a DsDev suit i can throw on chars.
why only get a 160% boost or so compared to a 300% boost. or whatever it is. 15 DsDev - 30 SS.
either way it goes though, i am still missing out on ashing time.
and why ash on mulitple chars, when i am trying to ash 50k for earthens to crystals, or 250k for DDs.
and on the SS point, i still swear to whatever god there is, i got more skills without SS on then i did with SS on.

16 SS's is far more than a 160% boost, they stack. And the point isn't to not hit the cap, that would be stupid like you said. It just might give you something to do for a bit longer in the hour. And you might have got more skills without SS, but you would not have gotten more skills per click amount.

[Hopilus]

either way it goes, we are pulling away from the point of the thread. and that is to slightly increase the ash drops, for those of us who hate SS, or have no need to equip them, to compenstate for the 15 or so minutes we are losing out on ashing and poker.