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Old 05-03-2018, 03:02 PM   #1
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Is Monk Theurg a recognized hybrid in the game, such as Archer Theurg

I.e. do you still get the same boost to CNC if you have no spells/no shield/weapons with a decent chunk of stats in agi/cnt/cnc/dur
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Old 05-03-2018, 04:53 PM   #2
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Old 06-04-2018, 11:54 AM   #3
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how about now with the new patch?

If I give up 2 Dadevs and 2 DlDevs, will i be able to equip an arrow as a monk/theurg?
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Old 06-04-2018, 04:39 PM   #4
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With the new staffs, Friar & Theurg, with the class reading theurg divinator - I can have arrows equipped. Does that mean that the monk benefit with arrows is passive, and somewhat indirectly recognizes Monk Theurg hybrid?
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It's not the monk staff allowing you to put arrows in your hands. Anyone can put arrows in their hands. It doesn't benefit them because they'd always be better off with something else. The monk staff allows you to remain a monk with arrows in your hands and gain the benefit of shadows and relics. The monk staff has no benefits if you are not a monk.
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while anyone can put arrows in their hands, the arrows do not act as weapons for anyone at all.
i.e. equip 2 arrows and try to hit something, you'll never land a hit because they're not weapons. you can't even attempt to hit.

See below for an example on one of my chars. 2 dirty rag arrows, you can see with the attack button nothing happens related to an attack.

https://prnt.sc/jtn95l
https://prnt.sc/jtnbbo

on my character Coal Chamber, I have both the Friar's Staff and the Theurg Staff (some say a waste, I say science). I again have dirty rag arrows, but as you can see that an attempt was made to attack with the setup being theurg+arrows

https://prnt.sc/jtnaqr
https://prnt.sc/jtnbgh

So yes any char can equip arrows, but they aren't weapons and can't attack. So my question is again, having both staffs now does the ability to equip 2 arrows and ATTACK with them mean that the arrow=weapon for monks trait a passive trait for the Friar's staff that is always active regardless of class?
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Old 06-11-2018, 12:35 PM   #8
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You cannot attack with them unless youre showing Master of Fist
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The monk staff has no benefits if you are not a monk - IE if your class is not currently listed as "Master of Fists" or "Monk". There are no passive benefits to having the staff in your inventory while being a different class, nor are there meant to be.
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I show Theurgal Divinator, and I can attack using the arrows.

So it appears that me equipping the arrows and being able to attack with them is an unintended passive benefit.
Can you just leave it so I can have recognition as a monk/theurg?
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